This man both loves and fears a space in which he loses interest in the world, asking himself how, in the midst of that, he will pay the bills? And what does John mean when he says “die before you die?” A reassuring, inviting dialogue about what we’re really here for.
Q: What is the meaning in the book “to die before you die, consciously?” I would like you to share with me this energy.
John: What it means for you to die before you die is for you to be what you are after you’ve died, while you live: for you to let what you are, after you’ve died, have your body, your self, your personality, your mind, your emotions, your feeling, your skills, your work.
Q: And it’s happened to me now?
John: Is it?
Q: It feels like it. Maybe it’s a self-trance or something.
John: (shakes head: no) If it’s a self-trance, try to do it on your own. It won’t work. You can’t come into this through your self, because this isn’t your self. This is a little bit of what you are after you’ve died.
Q: Sometimes I feel that in that state the mind puts me into a trick that I’m selfish because I more and more lose interest in the world, in the things that I wanted before, ideas that I love. In the moment I sit here some thoughts jump: “if you are going to stay like this, how you going to pay the bills?” Like, tricky! But I still listen to that which is here.
John: You let this pay the bills because you let this do all of your work. You let this have your life, have your self, have your mind. You let this have everything. When this has everything, this will pay your bills.
Q: I feel that there are many times the world tries to catch me down and tell me: “Come, come, you cannot stay like this” and many, many tricks. The more I’m deep, it can be noise of the mother, the noise of the most close friend – everything.
John: You get caught in it all, but you also know better. You know better because regardless of anything in this world, you know. And you don’t know because of this world. You don’t know because of your self. You know because of you. What you are, after you’ve died, loves having everything that’s yours. And it loves paying your bills. It has no trouble with anything.
For you to be enfolded by you – by this pure you – is you dying before you’ve died, is you being what you are after you’ve died, while you live. It’s what you’re here for. It doesn’t even make a difference if you cry or not because you know. Then, if you cry, you cry because you know; the opening of your self, because there you are, being you, in your self: wondrous, amazing, real, and true. You are plugging into you, and it’s extraordinary for you.
Q: Thank you. Now I have the fear that I’m going to stay like this forever!
John: You’ll be like this forever, for sure, after you’ve died. And, if you like, while you live.
Q: It’s okay to live like this?
John: Now you have died before you’ve died. Now, live before you die.
What makes the world exist, and how can a person live and work in this life without participating in a matrix of illusion? In this short, direct conversation John describes how it’s possible to live in the world from our deepest heart and be only real, letting everything pass away that will pass when we die.
This conversation highlights the difference between awakening and full embodiment: the first is easily come by, but the second is rare and requires an unusual depth of character.
An interview with John de Ruiter By Unify at the Global Unity Transmission online event on April 4, 2020.
“As the global pandemic spreads across the globe, we must ask ourselves, is fear spreading more rapidly than the virus itself?
It’s time for us as the collective of humanity to step into a new way of being. A great transition is upon us and our response matters.” – Unify
What begins as a wish to know where uniqueness belongs if we’re really all the same, opens into a detailed explanation of how consciousness confined to experience has us living in a doped-up self. John takes us beyond this into a greater depth of oneness, new for the universe, coming into us now.
This woman is touched by John sharing what sexuality is really for and wants to know what it means to be a woman. John shares the subtle differences between man and woman, and shows her how to invite and move in her sexuality anew – this time aligned to the delicacies of its deeper mystery.
How to go deeper within and continue to grow, in the midst of the business of life? In this dialogue, John speaks of the way to ‘slow down’, come to balance and find the real you, enabling levels and levels of nurturefull meaning to enter your life.
John guides a young man in his awakening experience, helping him to see the truth in what he’s knowing, realizing that as alien as the experience is to his habitual self, that he was not born for anything else.