Q: As my body has difficulties, how can I marshal my support system from the knowing of the self and from the knowing of the deep? Recently, I thought I had a knowing, but it was of the self and it turned out to be false. So how can I strengthen the self and strengthen the body, and how can I bring to bear the belief from the deep to do those things?

John: By not needing to. In not needing to and being well-connected in not needing to, you open up a different level in your body, a deeper level of your body and a deeper level of your self.

Q: What does it mean to open a deeper level of my body and a deeper level of my self?

John: To embody the deep instead of embodying what you’re used to, embodying your self. There is a body to the deep but it isn’t a body that you’re used to. It isn’t just a level, within, that’s deeper than what your self is; it is also a level of your body that doesn’t become real to you on a physical level until you are embodying the deep.

Q: What does it mean to embody the deep? It’s more than simply a belief.

John: The deep is an entire reality that your self is nothing without. The reality of your self is because of the reality of the deep. When the deep, within, becomes your life, the deep, within, comes into your body, opening up the level of your body that is the same as the deep.

Whatever becomes in your body, you’re functional in. For you to become the deep brings that level of you into your body, and you become functional as the deep, in your body, in your life. So then for you, when you embody the deep, the deep makes your life. Your life is real for you, not because of your person anymore, not because of your self anymore, but because of the deep. The deeper, within, that you’re able to embody, the more of you you’re being.

Q: Does that happen by first strengthening my belief in that connection between the self and the deep?

John: Inasmuch as you already know the truth of it, yes.

Q: How can I get beyond?

John: To go beyond what you know, you need to be what you know. Being what you do know enables you to know what you haven’t known. To know more you need to be knowing more.

Q: What can we do as a couple to facilitate that and strengthen that?

John: Embody together what you’re not accustomed to embodying together. That has you as a relationship needing to know more. As a relationship you’ll then not be functioning in what you’re accustomed to. What you’re accustomed to in your relationship won’t have enough meaning because you know, within, that there’s more. The more means more than what you already have. When you’re knowing that there’s more and you’re believing what you’re knowing, then as a relationship you’ll be coming into that more, even if you’re not understanding it, even if you can’t see it. When knowing it is everything, the relationship will be coming into more.

Q: This is beyond simply being aware of our patterns. It’s a qualitative change, it’s a qualitative difference. And in order for that to happen, we have to more closely embody what we know because it reinforces each other.

John: That puts the relationship onto the cutting edge of being completely inexperienced. It puts the relationship into the exquisite. On that cutting edge you’re able to make the relationship new. That new is more than all you’ve had. It is more worth securing than what you’ve had. Knowing something of the more is then really worth believing, even if you don’t understand it, even if you can’t see it.

When knowing it is enough for you, then that level of your body and that level of reality is what’s coming forward, not on terms of what you’ve come into so far but on terms that you agree with the moment you know the truth of it. In that way you come into the function of something of the deep, a function that isn’t like a functioning in your self…a functioning that is of a completely different level. Less palpable, more real.

It’s of greater value for you to come into that than for you to live longer. Then living in any way longer is for what you’re coming into of the deep, within, and no longer for what you have already come into. In that way, living longer means embodying more – you embodying more of you. Instead of drawing from your past, you begin to draw from your future. You draw from your future by being what is within, by you, unseen. You have no experience in it yet. The most that you have of it is knowing the truth of it…knowing something of the truth of it. You won’t be able to add your past to it. All that you can add to knowledge that you haven’t lived as yet is belief.

Q: Rather than adding experience, I’m adding belief. And that belief is the connection to the deep and forms the communication.

John: Yes. Belief changes your ground. You’re letting, then, knowledge within be your ground instead of something that you can see and an experience be your ground. As soon as you know that there’s something deeper, within, than what your own ground is, you are knowing new ground. Making that new ground real requires your belief.

Belief makes real what you don’t know the truth of and what you do know the truth of. Knowledge or seeing an experience is not your power. Belief is your power. What you give it to and what you don’t give it to, you’re responsible for. Your belief belongs to the deepest that you have awakened to, even if your awakening is limited to simply knowing and not yet seeing or experiencing.

Q: This is a complete change of orientation from how I’ve spent my professional career, based on a scientific method which is based on evidence and data – things you can see, measure. I’m doing it, but it’s really a change in orientation.This is quite useful and valuable.

John: Useful to what you haven’t come into yet; a launching all on its own, one that you’re sure of even though it’s not seen yet or experienced yet. You’re realizing and coming into what is for you not seen or experienced, and you are not dead yet. You’re coming into what opens after you’re dead and you’re not dead yet; coming into the reason for your living that is neither seen nor experienced, yet for you real. That’s empowerment beyond what you’ve come into so far.

Q: Isn’t the experience what’s happening now?

John: Yes, and you’re knowing the truth of it. You’re experiencing more of you than what you’ve experienced before. You believed you before you experienced this more of you. In this way you are before you are proven to exist. The more of you is before it is proven to exist.