Q: There is a saying that age is a matter of mind, and if you don’t mind it doesn’t matter, and it matters to me because this year I started my second half of my life. Yes, I am optimistic! And based on the very deep conversations that we have had I would like to ask you where to put my intention to.

John: To openness, openness of heart so profound and so clear that anything in your self – anything at all in your self, conscious or subconscious – is free to crack open and when it cracks, which it will, that you’ll not protect your self. And anything that cracks open in your self because of your heart opening, that you’ll not stop that cracking open.

Q: What is heart?

John: Your true meaning center. In your self, you equate meaning to being in your head. When you’re quieted within, you know that your meaning center is not in your head. Your meaning center is your heart, and that you’ll open without any reservation as to how that will affect you.

When your meaning center opens, you’ll make all of your beliefs vulnerable. The conclusions that you have drawn in your life…when you have concluded the truth of meaning instead of just simply responding to the truth that you knew of meaning…that conclusion will be made vulnerable when you completely return to being in your meaning center. When you respond purely to meaning, any conclusions that you’ve drawn in your life will come to the surface. They’ll be made manifest in your life and they’ll crack open. When they do, it will make you feel vulnerable in your thinking and vulnerable in your self. It feels threatening, but it’s a goodness.

Q: So, what is meaningful truth?

John: The deepest, most quiet sense of meaning that you’re able to rest in. The deepest sense of meaning you know has no immediate, practical application to your life. It does apply immediately to what you are most deeply being, within. It applies to your deepest orientation as awareness. When you open that deeply, you quietly know more deeply. You connect with meaning that is fundamental to what you really are.

In your self, when you listen to your self, you also connect to meaning but then you connect to meaning in a way that affects your self, that affects how you think and how you feel. That’s a superficial level of meaning. As deep as that does go in your self, it’s still superficial because what you are goes so much deeper than anything that you can relate to in your self.

If you go a little bit deeper than what your self is, you come into your heart. If you’re completely serious about going as deep as you’re capable of, without hesitation you enter your heart and you move straight through the center of your heart into the region of your own being, where meaning has to do with beingness, where meaning doesn’t appeal to your senses. It doesn’t directly and immediately appeal to your self or to your sense of self. It has no relationship with your identity.

It is meaning that is so profound that it registers only in your being. It purely has to do with beingness, beingness so subtle and so fine that if you could perceive it from the perspective of your self it would look like almost nothing, but because that level of meaning is so deep and so pure, when you’re in it you know that it’s everything. When you’re attentive to it, you also begin to realize that the wellbeing, the true wellbeing of your self is completely dependent on you not being separate from this most delicate, fine beingness, that your truest, deepest quality of life is completely dependent on you being one with your own being.

For you to be that depth and level of meaning directly will be the most beautiful, complete undoing of your self. Your self won’t be yours any more, in the personal sense. What you’ll experience is that your self, instead of belonging to the personal, belongs to change.

When your self is a self of change because you belong to meaning much deeper than what you experience in your self, in your self you have no fixed identity any more. You no longer relate to who you are, because who you are is always changing. What you relate to is the deepest, most delicate ‘what’ you are. What you are is the most subtle delicacy of being, and these delicacies of being that you’re one with, that you belong to…these delicacies of being are free to have control anywhere in your self. They’re free to change anything. When your self belongs to these delicacies of being, your self, over time, turns into them. Your self becomes what you relate to.

Whatever you are being in the midst of your self, your self becomes.

Q: Thank you.