Q: You said that truth is profoundly vertical. Could you say more about staying in that in everyday life, mostly in communication. This is where I keep losing it.

John: If what you realize in what is vertical is free to change anything in what is horizontal, there’s no stopping your awakening. It has no limit.

Q: Is that mainly by remaining in the heart, and in that in the awareness for the everything that is?

John: You have awakened to more than your heart. Whatever you have awakened to is what you belong to. If you’ve awakened to your heart, you belong to your heart. If you’ve awakened to what’s deeper than your heart, you belong to what you’ve awakened to. If you starve the vertical, you restrict the horizontal. If you free the vertical, that opens the horizontal.

When what you know matters more than your own being, your being can be embodied in your life. When your being matters more than your heart, your heart can be embodied in your life. When you awaken to the truth that is beyond your own heart, that not only takes you into your being, but in that truth you also realize that the truth you know is beyond your own being. It isn’t your being that you’ll be responding to in your heart. It’s the truth you know that is beyond your heart that you’re responding to.

When you’re taken deeper within than your own being by what you know, you’ll be able to manifest your own being. That will fulfill your heart, but your heart won’t be the focus anymore. It won’t even be what you know in your heart. When you’ve awakened to what you know that is beyond your heart, it’s what you know that you turn into. That takes you past your heart into your own being, and also past your own being.

What you really are isn’t limited to your heart. When you’re at rest in your heart you awaken to your being, and you know within your heart that your own being is beyond your heart. As you respond to that, it is your being that fills your heart.

When you know beyond your own being, the level of form that you’re able to come into is all different. It no longer relates to how you know your heart. It relates to how you know your being. That takes you into the deeper levels of your being, whereas when you are in your heart you’re relating to the surface levels of your being. It’s your introduction to your being.

As you relate directly to what you know in your own awakening, you’ll be going beyond your self deeper, beyond your heart deeper, and beyond your being. With each level that you go beyond, the form that what you really are comes into is different, functioning by different laws.

The vertical matters more than the horizontal, but if the vertical isn’t free to live in the horizontal then the vertical isn’t being made real, which will make you stuck in the horizontal. When you’re not free in the vertical simply because of response, you not only limit the vertical, you reduce the horizontal.

Q: While you were speaking I was able to relate what it is like to be in that, whether I’m more in the heart or deeper, or on a more surface level of the being or deeper. This way of sensing or being always feels extremely fragile. I’m not sure that I can trust my own way of sensing it.

John: That’s all determined by you, awareness, moving by knowing. The tendency, because you’re in form, is to move as awareness through the use of your form. The use of your form obscures the leading edge of what you know.

You understand more than what you experience, and you know more than what you understand. When you relate to what you’re experiencing, you reduce your understanding and you obscure what you know. When as awareness you’re relating directly to knowing and in that you’re not dependent on what you experience and on what you understand, your understanding and your experience clarifies all behind you. It shows up behind you because you’re ahead of it.

The movement of oneness isn’t dependent on understanding or experience. It’s not dependent on any form. It isn’t dependent on your own heart. Oneness isn’t dependent on your being; it is what your being is dependent on. The movement of oneness brings you into your being. The movement of that in your heart gives you heart-understanding. The fulfillment of that into your self gives you complete understanding. You don’t need any of it for you to be oneness.

For you, awareness, to be oneness is for you, awareness, and you, knowing, to move without there being a difference. There isn’t even the observer marking the difference between awareness and what awareness knows. There is no light there. It’s what your light comes from.

Q: The light is fully brought into form when awareness and knowing move totally together as one?

John: And when the light of that is free to move unencumbered through all that is yours, all of your forms. When it moves unencumbered in your heart and in your self, your form changes.

Q: For that to take place, giving all the importance goes back to giving it totally to the vertical.

John: Yes. The life of that is in the horizontal. Where life ends, your being doesn’t, and where your being ends, you don’t. That’s what is able to have and move your forms.

Q: When being in that connection in the deepest, no matter what is activated on the surface that would like to stop that, is one way of being with that by being warmly okay with whatever surfaces? No matter what.

John: Yes. That warm okayness is you being in your heart. That’s just the beginning. There’s more to you than that.

Q: Sometimes I have the feeling I keep mixing levels.

That’s fine, because you keep realizing.