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JdR Podcast 339

What is Oneness?

It’s said that we are all one, but what does that mean? Do we need to 'be one' and if so, how? In this dialogue, John's response illuminates both the detail and the simplicity in the meaning of and the way to oneness.

"The way to oneness, anywhere that there is separation, is through openness and softness of heart."

—John de Ruiter

This dialogue also appeared on VOD-000

Podcast Transcript

With John de Ruiter from the May 30, 2018, Moen, Denmark Event

Q: John, are we all one?

John: Yes. But that’s very different from all of us really being there. On a deeper level within, yes we are all one, but if we live being separate from what our being is then we will all be separate, separate from our beings, separate from the heart, separate from each other, separate from meaning, separate from goodness. Able to be one, but won’t.

The way to oneness anywhere that there is separation, is through openness and softness of heart. So the beginning of oneness is opening in the heart. As you are being that, openness and softness of heart, you are, right within the entrance to your being. As you, through that openness and that softness, come into your being, what you are also coming into is our being. 

Q: When you say our being, do you mean, one and the same, of the same kind?

John: Yes. As you open and soften in your heart, despite all of the differences that you can have with everyone around you, it’s through that openness and softness of heart that you begin to come into what is the same in all of us, whether we are all there or not. As you come into that sameness, despite what differences are there, you start to see that sameness in others, even if they’re not being it, even if they’re covering it. By being it, your eyes open, you begin to see it. It enables you to feel for others even when they are closing and hardening. 

All the ways in which we perceive ourselves as being so different from each other, it’s all actual; they’re actual differences. None of that is real. To be given to those differences is to be given to illusion. It’s only when you’re given to the sameness within that is actually there in everyone that you are being real. The real isn’t in our selves; the real begins within the open and soft heart. That openness and softness of heart that moves freely within our thinking or feeling, our use of will and emotion, is then realness, having presence in ourselves, slowly making our selves real or making ourselves by what we are being in ourselves, the same as our being. Instead of our selves being so different from our beings, by being the same as our beings, in the midst of our selves, our selves slowly become the same as our being. Being, in form. So in that way, instead of our selves being merely actual, our selves become real. And our beings, instead of just being real, become actualized in our selves.

Q: Would you call that illumination? 

John: Transformation. Awareness, as it opens, becomes illuminated, filled with light. Awareness opening and being filled with light, in the midst of the heart, fills the heart with light. That light-filled awareness, and that light-filled heart that is dwelling within the self, fills the self with light. Your self becomes what you are being in it. In that way, it doesn’t matter what condition your self is in, it doesn’t matter what you’ve done to your self, it doesn’t matter what others have done to your self. What really matters is what you are being in your self.

Q: Thank you.

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