Q: Is it true that there’s no need for us to keep going back into our past experiences, into the emotions that cause us to react?
John: Yes, so in that way you don’t need to address your thinking or your feeling. You don’t need to address your emotions, your will, your self, your personality, your past. You don’t need to focus on others.
What you return to is a most simple okayness within. The okayness isn’t an experience; it’s something that you know. You return to being okay as is: okay in the midst of your emotional body, okay concerning your relationship with anything in your past. That enables you to open, which enables you to feel and think differently than your patterned way of looking at something in your past, or your patterned way of moving in an experience. In that way, no one really needs help concerning their interior, and no one needs counselling or therapy.
What naturally heals is being what you really are in the midst of anything as it is. But this only works if it’s really your orientation, when it’s your orientation as awareness without result. If you do it to heal your self, you do it for your self. Anything you do for the sake of your self removes you from being what you really are.
This is extremely simple and at the same time it really costs everything. If you follow it through in its simplicity, everything heals. It is what makes meditation work. It’s what makes counselling work. It’s what makes therapy work. When you realize that, then you can be what it is that makes anything work, without you doing anything. So it is you being what you really are that is the magicalness and the real meaning of anything.
Q: So it’s really just our mind that’s the block from allowing us to drop down?
John: No. There isn’t actually any block. Your own nervous system and how it’s patterned to react is not a block. The blocks in your body, your nervous system and your mind are not blocks to you being what you really are. They’re blocks to you normalizing in your experience. They can be blocks to your movement on the surface, for example a block in being able to think really well, or a block in being socially adjusted. But these blocks don’t prevent you – even in your experience of them – from being in your heart.
Q: So the more time I spend in my heart the more at ease my nervous system will become and the more I’ll flow; I'll just be?
John: Yes.
Q: And that will take care of the outside world?
John: Yes – if you’re truly oriented to your heart.
Q: And what exactly do you mean by that?
John: That you’re not going to start to be in your heart so that your emotions can clear. You won’t be in your heart to move some of the blocks in your nervous system. You won’t be in your heart for any purpose. So it isn’t result-oriented. You’ll be in your heart for the sake of your heart, so then it’s genuine. It’s not conditioned on anything that’s taking place in your self.
Q: So the seeking will stop?
John: Yes. Then you are genuinely at home within, in the midst of anything as is.
Q: Thank you.
