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The questioner touches on her difficulty in dealing with and taking on other people’s pain. John explains that taking other people’s pain increases their pain, and that the only real way to end the cycle is to first address the cycle of pain and guilt in herself. The dialogue deepens and unfolds into the following topics:

  • Being quietly okay in the midst of pain.

  • Letting go of listening to your self.

  • Openness and softness of heart.

  • Not to live taking to heart what you feel but taking to heart beingness that you most quietly know within.

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